Pocket Monsters (2023) Speculation Thread (2024)

lolipiece said:

Because a) they hadn’t thought of it yet.

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What do you mean?

lolipiece said:

and b) it’s explicitly stated you have to take a special class to get access to a Tera Orb in the games. This is just based on that.

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Just speculation, but maybe another of Geeta's restrictions being that "control freak" that seems to be in the games?

Queen Cynthia said:

Who would hinder me from obtaining a Tera Orb, throw it and terastallize my Pokemon?

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Well, nobody, but it's potentially going to have legal consequences for you, just like getting behind the wheel of a car and driving around without a car license can.

Queen Cynthia said:

Just speculation, but maybe another of Geeta's restrictions being that "control freak" that seems to be in the games?

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It's less that and more that Tera Orbs are so complicated and expensive to make that they can't afford to give it out to everyone.

Queen Cynthia said:

I know. Still, I think that's a pretty silly and flawed concept.
Why would you need a "license" for Terastal when you could use Megaevolution and Dynamax to your heart's content back in those days ? Or to put it differently: Who would hinder me from obtaining a Tera Orb, throw it and terastallize my Pokemon? There really is nothing more about it than the basic rules of Terastal that you need to know.

Sorry for being agitated by it in the first place. But it my eyes that whole new Arc, Terastal Debut, just doesn't feel quite convincing and more like a big filler, so Friede and the RVTs can get the airship fixed.

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Dynamax is a similar case. You need a Dynamax band in order to use it, and to get one you need to get endorsed for the Gym Challenge.

Queen Cynthia said:

I know it's in the games and all that but still, I kind of don't like the idea of needing a "license" and having restrictions now when it has been working perfectly for more 25 years and the Pokemon World has been a world of freedom where you could do basically anything as a trainer.

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Yeeeaah. The whole license system is dumb asf lol.

It's likely just a way to integrate the school setting and lore. There's no skill or training required to use this gimmick; you just throw a Monster Ball. I can't see how this could go wrong or lead to dangerous consequences, unlike with mega evolution or characters messing up Z-move poses. But, it just goes into my usual criticism about modern entries feeling less fantastical and bizarre and more grounded in reality. But yeah there's just adapting the game lore about you needing to do a class as a mean's to get a Tera Orb.

Megas got it right by making them rare items, finding two of them and mastering the process was a real pain. Z-moves are purely cultural to Alola, while Daimax band is commercialized by Galar and rife with nepotism. It also makes the world of Pokemon feel more unfair and less utopic because you have trainers who can only get these gimmicks due to certain class or privelege so they're always in an unfair environment versus other trainers. You pretty much need to get lucky or be connected to rich or well-off people to get your hands on a Key Stone and Mega Stone or Daimax band.

RileyXY1 said:

Dynamax is a similar case. You need a Dynamax band in order to use it, and to get one you need to get endorsed for the Gym Challenge.

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Mega braclets are also supposed to be super rare so, while you dont need a liscence or anything, its still hard to come by.
Not sure about Z-Ring but the player character got theres due to Tapu Koko giving them that stone thing so maybe those are also hard to get?

Like I said, I think Tera Orbs are less about being dangerous, and more about "These are super expensive and complicated to make, we cant afford to give these out like candy so we need some way to decide who gets one."

Just pointing this out but so far this is how the team changes in the main cast break down by arc:

So as you can both arcs 1 and 2 had a lot of team changes being arc 1 having a total of 8 team changes and arc 2 having a total of 6(7 if you want to count Ludlow revealing that he has a Sharpedo) team changes.

So if the current arc which is arc 3 is going to have a similar amount of team changes to arcs 1 and 2 that means presuming that both Roy’s Wattrel and Liko’s Hatenna do wind up evolving in their up coming episodes that means there is at least 4 more team changes to come for this arc.

Now I think it’s safe to say that none of the remaining Lucius hero Pokemon are going to be joining in this arc.

So that basically leaves, captures, evolutions and/or wild Pokemon that join the Rising Volt Tacklers.

In all honesty I could see it being the case where by the end of this arc Fuecoco, Quaxly, and Tinkatink could easily have evolved into their middle stages. Looking that this is a training arc I could see them wanting to focus the team changes more on evolving the current main cast Pokemon that haven’t evolved yet rather then focusing on new captures.

Now if that is the case what is the last team change that would occur during this arc since evolving Fuecoco, Quaxly, and Tinkatink would only bring us to 5 team changes one short of 6.

And I think the last team change will be Gimmighoul joining the Rising Volt Tacklers with it then being capture in the next arc, it could even be the case that it sneaks aboard the air ship towards the end of this arc and they don’t find out about it until the next arc.

Also I know the current 3 arcs we have do have proper names I’m just calling them arcs 1, 2, and 3 for convenience sakes.

ShadowForce720 said:

In all honesty I could see it being the case where by the end of this arc Fuecoco, Quaxly, and Tinkatink could easily have evolved into their middle stages.

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I could agree about the duck and the steel fairy, but I think the crocodile, which is the most popular stage, will stay in the base form a bit longer.

DuskAstral said:

I could agree about the duck and the steel fairy, but I think the crocodile, which is the most popular stage, will stay in the base form a bit longer.

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Maybe by the end of the arc, Fuecoco will evolve, but Quaxly, not too sure of it.

Trey pokes said:

Maybe by the end of the arc, Fuecoco will evolve, but Quaxly, not too sure of it.

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Quaxly has a good chance to evolve, because Ququaval is the more popular of its evolutionary lines.
As for Fuecoco, his base form is more popular, so he will either get an Everstone or evolve only at the end of the series.

DuskAstral said:

Quaxly has a good chance to evolve, because Ququaval is the more popular of its evolutionary lines.
As for Fuecoco, his base form is more popular, so he will either get an Everstone or evolve only at the end of the series.

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I honestly don’t think they would drag out its evolution for that long. I think that if Fuecoco does wind up evolving it won’t be that long after Quaxly evolves that way Fuecoco can keep up with the other 2 starters.

And in all honesty I could see a situation where they have all 3 starters reach the final stages around the same time.

Plus if Fuecoco is going to fully evolve then they are probably going to want it using it signature move to be pretty hype, which limit what Fuecoco could learn before evolving.

So I don’t see them basically going from now until we get to end of the series with Roy’s Fuecoco getting no further upgrades until then while Dot’s Quaxly and Liko’s Floragato continue to get upgrades.

ShadowForce720 said:

In all honesty I could see it being the case where by the end of this arc Fuecoco, Quaxly, and Tinkatink could easily have evolved into their middle stages.

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Not a chance we get 5 Evolutions in the span of like 14-19 episodes.
The two back to back that people are predicting already seems unlikely to me.

ShadowForce720 said:

I honestly don’t think they would drag out its evolution for that long. I think that if Fuecoco does wind up evolving it won’t be that long after Quaxly evolves that way Fuecoco can keep up with the other 2 starters.

And in all honesty I could see a situation where they have all 3 starters reach the final stages around the same time.

Plus if Fuecoco is going to fully evolve then they are probably going to want it using it signature move to be pretty hype, which limit what Fuecoco could learn before evolving.

So I don’t see them basically going from now until we get to end of the series with Roy’s Fuecoco getting no further upgrades until then while Dot’s Quaxly and Liko’s Floragato continue to get upgrades.

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They’ve never been fair with starters before.

Articfoxgamez said:

Not a chance we get 5 Evolutions in the span of like 14-19 episodes.
The two back to back that people are predicting already seems unlikely to me.

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It’s not really that unlikely considering that most of the Pokémon that could have evolved during this arc have been around for a good amount of time.

Plus arcs 1 and 2 already had 8 and 6 team changes respectively so it’s not that unlikely that arc 3 would have at least 6 team changes.

Looking at the type of team changes they are probably not getting the next hero mon which is Kleavor until next arc.

Also given how a lot of the Pokémon that were on the poster that some people were speculating to be captures seem to wind up just be Pokemon of the Day it seems unlikely that there would be a bunch of Pokemon suddenly joining the Rising Volt Tacklers or getting captured.

Looking at how this arc is progressing and considering how long some of the Pokémon have been in the cast it makes perfect sense that there would be a lot of evolutions during this training arc.

I mean heck Quaxly and Fuecoco are at or getting to the point where there isn’t that much left for them outside of evolution and could easily evolve within their next focus episode.

As for Hatenna, it evolving would actually open it up for more things they could do with it since it would be able to move around and express itself easily.

Wattrel will likely evolve in the upcoming episode so that it can gain the strength and size it needs to save Roy which is nothing new for a bird Pokémon.

If anything it seems more unlikely that we wouldn’t get a bunch of evolutions during this arc.

RileyXY1 said:

They’ve never been fair with starters before.

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And yet if you actually look at it they been doing a better job at balancing the starters this time around then they have before, so your argument doesn’t really work.

ShadowForce720 said:

Plus arcs 1 and 2 already had 8 and 6 team changes respectively so it’s not that unlikely that arc 3 would have at least 6 team changes.

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There were only 4 changes to the team (Wattler, Hattena and Tinkatink and Sprigatito evolution ). I wouldn't count the Pokémon belonging to other RVT members and those who decided to stay on board themselves.

DuskAstral said:

There were only 3 changes to the team (Wattler, Hatten and Tinkatink). I wouldn't count the Pokémon belonging to other RVT members and those who decided to stay on board themselves.

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No, there were more as Liko also took in the hero Pokémon in to her care. I wasn’t counting Pokemon that belong to other RVT members.

The team changes that happened in arcs 1 and 2 break down like this:

Arc 1:

Liko:
Sprigatito
Hatenna
in her care:
Arbolivia
Galarian Moltres
Terapagos

Roy:
Fuecoco
Wattrel

Dot:
Quaxly

Arc 2:

Liko:
Sprigatito<- - ->Floragato
In her care:
Lapras

Dot:
Tinkatink

Wild Pokémon joining the Rising Volt Tacklers:
Maushold
Sinistea
Polteageist

I don’t see any reason why to discount Pokémon that join the Rising Volt Tacklers especially when they have been give their own episode.

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ShadowForce720 said:

No, there were more as Liko also took in the hero Pokémon in to her care

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For me, changing the team means catching a new Pokémon, as well as evolving one of the ones I already have.
Terapagos and the "Six Heroes" Pokémon, although under Liko's care, are not actually her official Pokémon.

ShadowForce720 said:

ShadowForce720 said:

The team changes that happened in arcs 1 and 2 break down like this:

Arc 1:

Liko:
Sprigatito

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Sprigatito was her first Pokémon, so this isn't a change to the team, just a team creation (the same is the case with Fuecoco and Quaxly).

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Arc 2:

Wild Pokémon joining the Rising Volt Tacklers:
Maushold
Sinistea
Polteageist

I don’t see any reason why to discount Pokémon that join the Rising Volt Tacklers especially when they have been give their own episode.

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Even though they got their own episodes, they are still wild Pokémon. That's why I don't think they should be counted as a "team change."

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